Oct 15, 2006 this book is a reprint of a genuine admiralty pocketbook for the average seaman. A seamans discharge book sdb, sometimes known as a seamans. It is difficult to estimate the total number of merchant seamen who lost their. Coast seamans unionsailors union of the pacific letterbook. He was honorably discharged after the end of the war.
How much would a fiction book cost in wartime 1940s in the uk. The prefix for british seamen was usually r and numbers had risen to around r900000 by 1972 when the system was changed. The register consists of docket books and seamen s pouches. If so it s your seaman s pouch it may have a copy of your id card. Man r001 01 application for a discharge book andor a british seamans card under the merchant shipping seamans documents regulations 1987 as they have effect in the isle of man with every application you should part a yourself in block capitals send a. Upon discharge from articles, he should be issued a.
Dont go to bed yet, we have one more and thats the seemannsamt seamans employment office they give out the seamans discharge book. Dont go to bed yet, we have one more and that s the seemannsamt seaman s employment office they give out the seaman s discharge book. Purchase includes free access to book updates online and a free trial membership in the publishers book club where you can select from more than a million books without charge. I tried to find the fal convention to better answer the question authoritatively, but cant find it currently. It lists the ships which martin served on from 1950 to 1957. British seamans discharge book rovworld subsea information.
Merchant seamen crewed the ships of the british merchant navy which kept the united. An application for an irish seafarers discharge book can be made if you are. Seafarers certification seaman book mariteam services. The seamans book is a record of career certification and experience. Here is a catch 22 question, been asked to send my cv in for a anti piracy job,someone is bidding on a contract and needs to be able to show personnel on books, and ive been asked to provide a discharge book and a seamens card,i have all the forms in front of me. Discharge books and british seamans card a discharge book is a continuous record of a seafarers service and is not a proof of identity. Seaman service book ssb is a continuous record of a seamans service issued in pakistan. A book should be held at kew in piece bt 3822547 but as i said you will unfortunately not be able to get your actual dis.
Application for seamans record book and certificate of. Eastbound steerage encyclopedia titanica message board. A seaman lost his continuous discharge book during the voyage. The company is also a scrap dealer and has dismantled many railway vehicles, either on. Msf 4509 application for a discharge book and or british seamans card rev 0819.
Seaman s record book and certificate of discharge issued to martin spencerhogbin by the ministry of transport. Seamans guide to rule of the road by morgan technical the. They were helpful, gave me an address, told me i needed a letter of introduction from my employer with letter head, and a passport photo. How do you apply for a seamans book in canada answers. May 09, 2019 the seaman s card had to be stamped by police, that way the shipping company knew that you werent some criminal trying to flee the country or something. Discharge books and british seamans card uk ship register. In the early war years britain desperately needed fast convoy escorts and. Msf 4509 application for a discharge book or british seamans card. Born in england in 1924 martin spencerhogbin spent his working life in the shipping industry working primarily for the blue funnel line.
Jul 23, 2018 dividing the gray issues into black and white. Here is a catch 22 question, been asked to send my cv in for a anti piracy job,someone is bidding on a contract and needs to be able to show personnel on books, and ive been asked to provide a discharge book and a seamen s card,i have all the forms in front of me, but to process the. Frank, like his father, went to sea, but he did not stay with that career very long. A seaman book is a continuous record of a seaman s service. Records of individual merchant seamens sea service details are held in alphabetical surname order. Get one and it will pay for itself in very short time. Hisher distinguishing marks na if not applicable iii. The union filed a grievance to protest cashs discharge, and the dispute was eventually submitted to arbitration before an arbitration panel of three members, one appointed by exxon, one by the union, and the third a neutral arbitrator who acted as chairman. How to get a discharge book or british seamans card in uk. Complete an application form and submit to the registrar of seafarers, along with.
Seamans card and book for south african merchant navy. A seaman s discharge book, sometimesknown as a seamans service book ssb, is a full record of a seafarers career experience and certification. That registration of merchant seafarers failed, and it was not successfully implemented until 1835. In 1957 martin decided to immigrate to australia from england, believing it would be. The seamans card had to be stamped by police, that way the shipping company knew that you werent some criminal trying to flee the country or something. Crs 35, telling local pool that a release to train a s pilot or observer has not been. This book is a reprint of a genuine admiralty pocketbook for the average seaman.
A seaman s discharge book is a full record of a seaman s career experience and certification. A seamans discharge book is a full record of a seamans career experience and certification. The harry needle railroad company hnre is a railway spothire company, based at barrow hill engine shed in derbyshire. Get a seamans discharge book or british seamans card gov. Seafarers discharge book and id card seafarers ireland. The five mile tourist railroad operated until 1991, when it could not meet the new federal safety. I have my great grandads discharge book and it states what his possition was at sea, one of them is an os which is an ordinary seaman, but then he changed to a ww, does anybody know what a ww is. You need a seamans discharge book if youre a british seafarer, or are working on a uk registered ship or yacht. This document certifies that the person holding is a seaman as per the international convention on standards of training, certification and watch keeping for seafarers, 1978, as amended 1995. What special privileges does a traveller with a seaman.
Before boggss honorable discharge on may 16, 1919, he achieved the rank of corporal. What special privileges does a traveller with a seaman book. You may know it as a seamans service book or a seafarers identity document. Get a seamans discharge book or british seamans card. Coast seaman s unionsailors union of the pacific letterbook. Rail, maritime and transport workers rmt stcw means the. It is a requirement that seafarers working on uk flagged ships or large yachts have a uk discharge book or one that is issued by one of the governments listed in msf 4509. The seaman s book discharge book is also massively useful, especially out here in asia and farmiddle east where visas are a pain to get and the rules change every 5mins. Jul 02, 2014 msf 4509 application for a discharge book and or british seaman s card rev 0819. There are more departments, but this is what were interested in. All my crew have books and we always get some kind of visa or shore pass using them. The seaman s book certifies that theseafarer holding itis a seaman as per the international convention on standards of training, certification and watchkeeping stcw. San francisco maritime national historical park, online.
Cayman islands shipping registry of the maritime authority of. Hopefully i will get my hands on it over the next few days and come back to edit it. It was written to explain the most important aspects of seamanship to a total novice, a book he could tuck into his pocket and refer to if he was. Enquire status of application for seaman discharge book sdb a this form allows you to check for the status of an sdb application. The seamans bookdischarge book is also massively useful, especially out here in asia and farmiddle east where visas are a pain to get and the rules change every 5mins. Seaman s books are useful for logging sea service, seaman s fares extra luggage on flights that accommodate seafarers, as a second form of identification. How ever to get a seamans card and discharge book i need to be british or have the right of abode in the uk. Jul 10, 2008 i have my great grandads discharge book and it states what his possition was at sea, one of them is an os which is an ordinary seaman, but then he changed to a ww, does anybody know what a ww is. A catch 22 application for a discharge book and seamens. This file may not be suitable for users of assistive technology.
He works for transport canada and he will tell you how to apply. Application for seamans record book and certificate of discharge. Name of seaman, date and place of birth, discharge seamans book number, rank, details of the ships on which he served. It is a requirement that seafarers working on uk flagged ships or. The duties of a pumpman include loading and unloading cargo and properly aligning pumps for the transfer of products. If so its your seamans pouch it may have a copy of your id card. He returned to the railroad and entered train service working as a brakeman. A discharge book is a continuous record of a seafarers service and is not a proof of identity. South african yachties can assist in getting you a seaman s discharge book, if you have a job on a seagoing vessel that travels more than 8 miles offshore. An irish citizen who is either a member of crew, engaged in the navigation of the vessel, or who is not a member of crew, but works as a supernumerary i. He joined the navy and served as a gunner seaman 1 st class on a marine ship during world war ii. When i returned to canada i contacted the marine division, and told them where i lived. A catch 22 application for a discharge book and seamens card. Crs 69, instructions to mmo to issue seamans unemployment insurance book.
If the seaman held a discharge book a continuous certificate of discharge. A discharge book is a continuous record of a seafarers service. There are more departments, but this is what were interested in when obtaining german endorsements. Seaman book is one of the compulsory document for applying crew transit visas. Mar 05, 2007 hmmm im sure i have a seaman discharge somewhere around here. The fifth register of seamans service 1941 to 1972. The merchant navy is the maritime register of the united kingdom, and comprises the seagoing. Cash, a thirteenyear employee who started with exxon as a seaman and advanced to chief pumpman. If you are in ontario ottawa area, you dial 6 5364555 and speak to a gentleman names scott. A seaman s card is invaluable as a professional identification document, as our passports no longer have a profession line in them. The british seaman s card is similar to a british passport and is internationally accepted, allowing seafarers to land at foreign ports without having to obtain visas. I am trying to resolve this problem by my self, as i am worried that if i tell my company this they will tell me sorry, and give my job to the next person. Application for a discharge book, british seamans card.
It seems to be a very faithful reproduction, the hardcover binding is excellent, and the size is very convenient. His seamans certificate of discharge shows he served on only one voyage, from liverpool to australia, on the medic in 1901. Information in this guide explains who needs a seamans discharge book, the application process, and fees. As a 32mile common carrier prior to 1971, it was the last all steam locomotivepowered, mixed train railroad operating in north america. The british seamans card is similar to a british passport and is internationally accepted, allowing seafarers to land at foreign ports without having to obtain visas. Every seafarer must carry this document while on board, which is also an official and legal. According to the 1930 census, boggs was living at 122 park place in bradley beach, new jersey, with his wife and two adult children, could read and write, was a world war veteran, and was employed as. This document certifies that the person holding is a seaman as per the international convention on standards of training, certification and watch keeping for seafarers stcw, 1978, as amended 1995 and 2010. Abbreviations in merchant seamens records the national archives. The merchant shipping seamens documents regulations 1987. The docket books normally include the following information.
Copy of passportseaman book watchkeeping endorsement basic courses valid medical certificate photos 5 fitter, wiper, ordinary seaman, other rating including cadets, electrician, cook, steward copy of passportseaman book basic courses valid letter of experience or discharge book showing position photos 5 medical certificate. For many years, it has been the practice for the master to enter his opinion of a seamans conduct and ability in that seamans discharge book, together with information about the ship, the period of service and the seamans position. Seamans record book and certificate of discharge issued to martin spencerhogbin by the ministry of transport. The discharge a numbers were originally numbers only and had risen to 1140000 7 digits by the mid 1920s. Trackside around harrisburg in color with thomas f. It is important that the guidance notes and instructions on pages 4, 5 and 6 are read, prior to completing the application and all required. Im pretty sure the majority of the crew positions required a discharge book to be presented which was signed and stamped at the end of the voyage by appropriate officers. These regulations revoke the merchant shipping seamens documents regulations 1972, as amended, and reenact them with further amendments. It is a requirement that seafarers working on uk flagged ships or large yachts have a uk discharge book or one that is issued by one of the governments listed in msf 4509 a british seamans card bsc is an internationally accepted document which allows a british seafarer to land at foreign ports. This is the international qualification, issued by the uk government which allows an officer to.
Bermuda seamans discharge book application crew id, name, rank b. Helping seafarers and their families across the maritime community. Or is a united kingdom seafarer with the right of abode in the uk and will serve on the following. Numbering started again then with a letter prefix to indicate the seamans country of origin. The five mile reader railroad was a tourist only railroad operating in arkansas from 1971. He left the railroad after almost a year of employment when he turned 18 due to the war time draft. Dockwalk the essential site for captains and crew docktalk. The railroad cars that brought the ore to the vessel were previously loaded with iron ore so the ore is contaminated. The discharge book for merchant seamen, or more formally the continuous certificate of discharge, was introduced in 1900. Either way, as a british seafarer you will need to get a seamans discharge book sdb to work on a ukregistered ship or yacht. British seamens cards no longer require endorsement after 5 years. They also see to that ships have the minimum manning and stuff like that. Your crs 10 which will list all of your ships similar in kind to your dis. See more ideas about traveling by yourself, black and white and singapore changi airport.
British seamens cards are no longer obligatory for british seafarers. What deos ww stand for in a seamans discharge book. Number of previous bermuda sdb na if not applicable. The following information must be provided in the body of the email. It operated trackage in ouachita county and nevada county, arkansas. Copy of passport seaman book watchkeeping endorsement basic courses valid medical certificate photos 5 fitter, wiper, ordinary seaman, other rating including cadets, electrician, cook, steward copy of passport seaman book basic courses valid letter of experience or discharge book showing position photos 5 medical certificate.
The case before us stems from exxon s discharge of alan b. Use the below list to find out which port numbers abbreviations refer to which uk ports. A seaman record book or continuous discharge certificate is a continuous record of a seamans service. The certificate was essential to the seamans potential for gaining a billet in another vessel. Application for a discharge book andor a british seamans. Man r001 01 application for a discharge book andor a british seamans card under the merchant shipping seamans documents regulations 1987 as they have effect in the isle of man with every application you should part a. It is dark blue, with 26 pages, slightly larger than a modern passport, with a rectangular slot in the front cover, which allows you to read the seamans surname. I understand that the nmci has a right to retain any irish seafarers identity card andor discharge. This document certifies that the person holding is a seaman as per the international convention on standards of training, certification and watch keeping for seafarers stcw, 1978, as amended from time to time. Joining crew should hold an introduction letter from owners detailing ships name, arrival port and canal. Seamans guide to rule of the road by morgan technical. No key for port rotation numbers which appear in earlier merchant seamen service records has.
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